Monday, March 30, 2015

A note about "swirling" and dating in general

This quarter was very intense and that is why I update so sporadically. I can't promise to post more often but I will be spending spring break making posts and hopefully put them on a posting schedule. I don't want to come across insensitive or lacking in empathy but I have something that I would like to have a conversation about something:

There is an article of a BW moaning about having a hard time dating online. She sounded depressed, disappointed and insecure that she had no luck. While I feel bad that she is having a hard time, I am kind of annoyed with articles like this because they make us BW look desperate and it doesn't solve anything! What is the point? To make people feel bad enough for you to date you? And this isn't the only one either. I see it all the time on tumblr. BW whining about being unwanted and sometimes disrespected while searching for a partner. Now I can empathize with some of these girls because I know how hard it was to find a suitable partner. I'm not going to sugar coat things. Dating in general is hard but swirling is even harder because not only do you have to vet out the users, cheaters and abusers but also the undercover racists, men with fetishes or the ones who just want to experiment or use BW as a back up plan. Do you know what is more unattractive than a woman who is morbidly obese, crude or boring? An insecure woman with a victim complex who is going to bitch and moan over something that can be changed. Am I saying this is all her fault? No! I'm saying that it makes you look bad to complain on a public platform about something that happens to thousands of women every day. Learn how to accept rejection and move on. See what you could do differently and take another approach to reach your goal. Online dating not working out? Try actually leaving your home. My friends and I had more successful love lives when we got off the computer and into actual settings that put us in the position to mingle with high-quality men.

The thing is, people are watching and paying attention. They are noticing that not only are BW opening up their dating options (a good thing) but some are desperate enough to accept anything that's not black (every seen a single black mom with a swarm of mixed-race babies and no ring?). I saw it myself years ago when I joined an online dating website after being stationed at a new base. This guy wrote on his profile that he is not worried about having to put up with a WW's bullshit because knows there are many many asian and black women who are at his beck-and-call. *eye roll* I've also been approached by an underemployed man with bad hygiene who expected me to just give him a chance because most BW never marry anyway and he's "willing" to date me. LMFAO! I just giggled and acted like he never said it. So because there's a chance that we never marry that we are supposed to lower our standards? Heck no...

Dating, unfortunately, is a game. A hard game and it takes a lot of research, practicing and strategy to master it. Everyone faces rejection in one way or another. As BW, who some see as the bottom of the totem pole, rejection is inevitable. Some people are downright cruel. I found a fitness forum that had a "general discussion" section and a recent thread was of a young WM asking ppl what to put in his free dating profile so that BW would stop sending him messages. Do you know what the responses were? To be as cruel and nasty as he wanted to be to these women because they are over stepping a boundary that shouldn't be crossed. How dare they think they are good enough for him! Why should he date a girl who's hair he couldn't even run his hands through? He even posted screenshots of the messages he got (which weren't inappropriate or strange, just regular friendly/flirty) and they all laughed at them and even decided to make accounts just to troll these women. SMH it made me furious! But then I reminded myself that this is the internet, where people show their hidden colors.  Now I don't think all non-BM are racist and cruel but I just don't want young BW to think that because a few BW celebrities successfully swirled that it is easy-peasy. In fact, you may find that you find a suitable BM to be courted by and marry! You never know!

As much as I advocate for BW to expand their dating options, I want BW to be realistic. Swirling is not all rainbows and lollipops and it is not for everyone. This is America. Racism and prejudice is America's theme. Non-BM are not magical unicorns, they can be DBR's too. It may take years, moving into a new city, total life makeover etc. before you meet a potential partner but if you put in effort, you will reap the rewards. And that works for every aspect of your life. It helps immensely to learn to take things in stride, learn how to play the game and be strategic. Here are a few tips I have:

-don't send out messages. Let the men come to you. Focus on writing a nice profile that doesn't give out too much info about you, having attractive photos that not only show off your face but your fit body in an appropriate way (in a classy cocktail dress or gown, a flowing skirt) and know how to come across as mysterious and not spill the beans.

-don't go back and forth too much. Don't let him make you a message-buddy, a woman he only talks to when he's bored. If he doesn't ask you out within 10 messages, stop responding until he actually asks you out on a real date to a real place, not his couch to watch netflix and "get to know each other", which is code for "find out if you are easy to get into bed" All the women I know who have accepted such dates ended up being seduced Lol.

-don't say anything in your profile that bashes BM, it's unattractive and immature because it shows that you have baggage. Nothing like "I am into interracial dating only so if you aren't  ____ don't bother" or "I'm don't date BM because they think they are better than me" (I've seen this one lol) or anything like that. Just ignore the messages you get from men you aren't interested in and that goes for other things like men of a certain age group, in a certain work field, etc. There are other ways to let men know you are down with the swirl. I personally used to put that I have traveled extensively and am learning multiple languages and would like to meet someone who has is as well. Believe it or not that pretty much narrowed it down to WM and AM who were adventurous, had a degree and were comfortable career-wise (it's probably because you have to be financially stable to travel a lot). Which brings me to my next point:

-the best places to meet men are in places that go with travelling, money, business and science. By that I mean airports, high end lounges in airports or hotels, banks, auctions, science conventions etc. I actually got a part time job while in the military at an airport lounge as a cocktail waitress and I met my ex-bf there. He was a med-school student from the East Coast who was on his way to a residency interview. He gave me his business card and I never called him. He actually came back to the lounge before going home to chat me up. I acted like I never said I would call him, I flirted and smiled, had a fun convo like nothing ever happened. I said I would keep in contact but I didn't because I wanted to see if he was the type of guy to go after what he wanted and I was right. He actually called my job one weekend and asked my manager if he could speak to me! He came back for residency the next fall and we started dating. He ended up being a sweetheart and spoiled me so rotten. It was a nice change from the wanna-be Eminem's I dated in high school! Yep, stay away from the Malibu's Most Wanted types, sistas, they are nothing but immature losers that have absorbed the bad part of Black Culture via disgusting rap music.

-Don't date when you are desperately lonely. I think it's understandable to want some romance in your life but loneliness is easy to spot and can make you a target for users and abusers. Don't respond to online messages during the weekends, that's just telling them that you don't have anything to fill your precious time with. Wait until the weekend is over and respond. Don't apologize and be like :"sorry I was so busy I had to ____ and then I ___" You have nothing to apologize for (you don't owe him anything) and it's none of his business what you did that weekend. If he wanted to know he would ask ;) There are men out there who love lonely women because they are easy to take advantage of sexually, financially and emotionally. These are the type of men who will exploit you emotionally and convince you to do things like put things he wants in your name and mess up your credit LOL It is best to start dating when you already have some things going on such as work, running your business, school, etc. That way, you won't have the time or energy to fret over every little thing. You won't over a text that wasn't responded to right away or feel insecure if he is out getting to know someone else. Confidence will enable you to not care about these things because you will know that you are high quality yourself and if he knows what's good for him he will make an effort to get to know such a creature ;) I also suggest you date more than one guy at once. By dating I mean letting him take you out, getting to know each other by talking on the phone (instead of endless text conversations) or in person. This keeps you from settling with a guy because he was your only option at the time.

-Notice that I didn't say anything about sex? Since you will be getting courted by more than one guy, you shouldn't be having sex until you know who you want to be with exclusively. Now I have brought this up in real life before and it made some women mad. How dare I advise not to sleep with a man soon after meeting him! Why does this upset people so much? I'm not saying there's a timeline to when you should sleep with a guy as everyone has different comfort levels. I'm saying it's not wise to sleep with a man very soon, especially if you are dating more than one (as you should). Us women are emotional creatures and whether we like it or not, sex is more than just sex. We absorb the other person's feelings for us. If you start a sexual relationship with a man right away how do you know that you really want to be with him or if you are just infatuated because he is good in bed? It's best to think logically and make sure that he actually lives up to your standards before you give your body to him. Ideally the man will be looking for a partner/relationship and more than just sex so it won't bug him to actually get to know you first. In fact, you shouldn't be seeing him in places that aren't in public until you know if he is looking for a real relationship with you. Until then keep it PG and do normal things like wine tasting, sight seeing, going to the boardwalk, movies, art exhibits, etc.

Those are just some things that I thought I would share. This post was really random but I see that a lot of BW (at least online) are lost when it comes to the dating world. In a nutshell: toss those rejections aside like they never happened, continue learning about man-women relationship dynamics and improving yourself, research and follow "The Rules" (a book), and don't focus on your failures/bad experiences. Everyone has them and it's best not to showcase your woe-is-me attitude to the world because it is pointless and solves nothing.

Until next time,
xoxo

11 comments:

  1. I'm not currently interested in dating now, but I have plenty of friends who are and this advice is spot on. Some of these things I've been saying, but maybe when it comes from somebody else they'll be more willing to listen.

    Funny, my dad mentioned when it is time for dating (I'm 19) that it is ok to date more than one person, choose the best out of that group and begin to court.

    I don't think waiting to have sex until you're in a committed relationship is that bad. I mean...I'm waiting until marriage! That tends to make some people upset, but whatever. :)

    Wise post as always.

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    1. Lovely LeBlanc, I think its wonderful that you are waiting until marriage to have sex. That is such a positive statement to hear :)

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  3. Great post Enlightened Femme ^_^

    I agree with pretty much everything. One thing I would add on is to be very careful and sometimes extremely discreet who you share your IR dating talks with. People talk but people online talk and gossip over some very hot tea. I think Black Women in general should be very wary of over sharing, myself most definitely included.

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  4. This was a great post because I am interested in dating interracially because I find myself having more in common with older White men, being 19 going on 20. I know it is strange but this is who I feel I can relate to though I would like to date White and non Black men who are in their twenties and thirties. College is two months away and I would like some advice on this.

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  5. Hi Enlightened Femme,

    Good to read your posts again and thank you for this article.

    I'll break up my response into two parts so as to avoid a large, 'hard to read paragraphs' response.

    1st half:

    Dating while desperately lonely -- I did this twice (not proud of it) and all the consequences you highlighted are true. I learned some hard lessons and I am not going down that route again. I have stories!

    As you said, dating is a game that is hard especially when you want a high quality mate. I realized that I had to change my mindset and overhaul my life when it came to dating. Dating outside my race as a BW has always been an option for me but one I have never proactively exercised. Recently, I have done a number of things that have put me in places where I have mingled or interacted with (on the face of it) good quality WM.

    Traveling -- I have met a number of WM through travel and I enjoyed great conversations and on various occasions enjoyed flirting with WM.

    Yoga -- I started Yoga at the beginning of the year to get into & stay in shape. In my group, I am sometimes the only BW, not always easy but I interact with the ladies and I listen more than I speak and through the group I have learned about a number of restaurants and hotels that provide healthy meals or diverse menus.

    Redtaurants -- In exploring some of these restaurants I have discovered that a lot of WM (dining solo or in groups of men) frequent these particular restaurants and so I make a treat of occasionally grabbing shakes and food from these restaurants, smiling more often and being more friendly when out and about. This has earned me smiles and second glances (second glances I would not have attracted prior).

    Outward appearance -- Another area I had to change. I had to step up my makeup, style/wardrobe and hair game; I had to step way up. I never used to wear make up or dresses and now I do. I have noticed changes in how others respond to me when I wear make up (versus sans make up), dress up and my hair is well coiffed. The reception is often more positive when I'm all done up. Lingering looks or second glances, more readily available smiles and some men actually flirt with me or are more receptive to my flirtations.

    Language classes -- I enrolled for a language class and my class has non-black men. Also, being a student of this language institute provides me with membership and I am notified of various cultural events and other activities at a slightly reduced cost. I've taken advantage and I try to attend at least one event a month. It is great for practicing my language skills and meeting men of various races. I've attended a couple of events and while I haven't landed any dates, I've interacted with various men and had fun. It's been a practical way to learn how to interact with men of various backgrounds & races.

    I've had so much fun implementing these changes and meeting different kinds of men.



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    1. Looooooove all this info! Literally taking notes. Thank you.

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  6. *Restaurants NOT Redtaurants

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  7. 2nd half:

    You made some great points about avoiding becoming a message buddy and refraining from sex.

    Recently, I went out on a date and enjoyed it, the conversation was interesting, he selected a lovely restaurant and I was impressed. About a day after the date he started texting me as opposed to calling. I chose to either ignore the messages or respond but hours later. About a week and a half after the date, he called me after 9 pm. I deliberately ignored his call (my reasoning was & is that anything a man - one who I have not been friends with for at least three years - has to say or ask can be done via a phone call between 8 am and 5 pm).

    The following day, mid-morning, I sent a text stating that I had found his missed call (this was a mistake on my part - I should not have responded at all). He responded with a text stating that I had missed the moment and there was no point in discussing why he had called. I responded with 'ok' and went about my day. Later, I received a message from him in which he stated that he had noticed that I did not initiate texts and when he did text, I responded only occasionally and he was now leaving things up to me. I did not respond.

    This man, before the text tantrum, had seemed like a "viable dating option" and I initially felt like there was a glitch in my dating game because I thought to myself, "again, another one has not worked out!" Like other women, I want dating to be easy but it is not. I have to work hard at it and be strategic about it - this is fine and actually good for me. I also realize that as long as I create and implement healthy boundaries, men with whom I am incompatible and men that are unsuitable will fall by the wayside.

    Additionally, there are a number of reasons why I was able to pass on the man I mentioned above (and men who act react like him). Firstly, men are not the prize, women are - I got that from Faith of Acts of Faith in Love & Life blog; it is my mantra now. You have to convince someone that you are worth investing time in and this doesn't happen after one date and a few text messages.

    Secondly, two years ago, a met a man who asked me out a number of times and I always said no. Eventually I went out on a date with him. Afterwards, I avoided him. That man kept in touch! He invited me for poker nights at his house (every three weeks he hosted a group of between 10 - 15 people for poker night), he invited me for various outings and activities with his friends (both men and women) and he even sent me e-mails about maps and constitutions - things we both found fascinating. He found ways to spend time with me and to convince me that he was someone I should date. He did not give up after the first and definitely not after the second 'no'. He taught me that a man who wants you in his life will find a way. He won't give up when his plan A fails, he will adjust, improvise and find a new strategy that woos you.

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    1. 3rd half

      (I wrote earlier that my comment would consist of two parts but I had to break up my second part otherwise I could not publish it)

      I am finding that dating is complex but I am learning to adjust and ensure that I am up to the challenge. This also includes avoiding articles by BW that bemoan the challenges of (interracial and/or online) dating. I prefer articles that encourage and recommend strategies that BW can use. Rejection is part of the process and it can be hard but you can move past it - you must get past it.

      I have enjoyed a series by Faith (Acts of Faith in Love & Life blog) entitled Evaluating Men for Alliances and Marriage, she provides great insight with practical examples. Other ladies such as Khadija, Evia and Halima on their respective blogs, provide great advice that translates to all areas of life (including dating and marriage) for BW.

      There are various resources out there such as books, blogs, v-logs by and for BW that provide great insight on dating and marriage for BW, (non-black woman also write books on dating that BW can learn from if interested) reading them and then coupling it with actually getting out there and dating provides all sorts of (mis)adventures - "...if you don't step forward, you're always in the same place."

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  8. All single black woman might as well head back to Africa. White women are taking your bucks/men and diluting the race. My tiny pink rules black men.

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